Saturday, July 16, 2011

Mary McDonald and John McNeish

Mary McDonald McNeish
Mary McDonald
Born: 14 March 1894  East Main Street, Armadale, West Lothian, Scotland
Died: 2 Nov 1961  Lovell, Big Horn, Wyoming
Buried: 4 Nov 1961  Cowley Cemetery, Cowley, Big Horn, Wyoming
Father:  John McDonald (1852-1930)
Mother: Mary Cameron (1854-1929)
2nd Spouse: William Heber Robb (1877-1958)
Married: 24 Jun 1946 - Billings, Yellowstone, Montana


John McNeish
John McNeish
Born: 20 January 1890 Conel Park, New Cummock, Ayrshire, Scotland
Died: 28 January 1942 Billings, Yellowstone, Montana
Cause of Death: Myrocardial Insufficiency
Buried: 30 January 1942   Bearcreek Cemetery, Bearcreek, Carbon, Montana
Father: John McNish (1863- Between 1933)
Mother: Jane Nesbit (1861-1940)
Biological Father: Unknown
Biological Mother: Mary McNish (1871-1924)
Marriage: 22 Dec 1911   , Guernsey, Ohio 
Possibly remarried 26 Oct 1932  Billings, Yellowstone, Montana
Immigration:  Scotland Between 1902 and 1903
Occupation:   Miner
Marriage Note: 
It appears that John McNeish and Mary McDonald were married in 1911 and then married again in 1932. Possibly divorced. and remarried? At this point we have not located divorce records.

Children:
Mary McNeish  AKA "Little Mary" McNeish
Born: 19 Aug 1912  Byesville, Guernsey, Ohio
Died: 15 October 1981  San Jose, Santa Clara, California
Buried: 21 Oct 1981 Hillside Cemetery, Greybull, Big Horn, Wyoming
Spouse: Thomas Arthur Rogers (1903-1979) 6 July 1933- Greybull, Big Horn, Wyoming

Daughter McNeish
Born: 4 January 1925  Washoe, Carbon, Montana
Died:  4 January 1925  Washoe, Carbon, Montana
Buried: 6 January 1925 Bearcreek Cemetery, Bearcreek, Carbon, Montana

General Notes on Husband:
CONFLICT: Birth date> Cemetery record has birth as 25 Jan 1890 while marriage record states age 21 years old on 20 January 1912.


Birth record agrees with information from marriage record.

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IDENTITY: John is most likely the adopted son of John McNeish and Jane Nisbet. In the 1891 census, he is described as their nephew. In the 1901 census, he is described as their son. In the 1898 New Cumnock General Register of the Poor, John McNeish, Sr. and Jane Nisbet are living with Jane's mother and are described as having four children (one adopted). Who his real parents are is a mystery, but his birth surname does seem to be McNeish. Perhaps, and this is pure speculation, he was an illegitimate son of one of John Sr.'s sisters.

The speculation about John's birth mother was correct. John's birth record (608-13) indicates that he was born "illegitimate" on Jan 20, 1890 in Connelpark, New Cumnock. Mother was Mary McNeish (House Keeper). Mary later married William McMaster Bell.

Informant was his mother.

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MCNEISH FUNERAL IS NOTED FRIDAY

Funeral services for John McNeish, 52, Washoe coal miner, were held from the Olcott chapel here at 3 p.m. Friday. Members of the United Mine Workers of America local union 858, of which McNeish was vice president, participated in internment rites at Bearcreek cemetery.

A trio composed of Mrs. J. Robinson, Mrs. H. Meyers, and Miss Nellie Williams sang "Life's Cares," "Only One Life," and "Alone with God."

Pallbearers were Dan McDonald, John McDonald, John Sommerville, Gilbert Sommerville, and Jake McNeish.

McNeish died at a Billings hospital Wednesday morning after a brief illness.

Born in Scotland on Jan. 25, 1890, he came to the United States 39 years ago and had been a resident of Red Lodge and Washoe for 29 years.

Prior to his illness he was employed at the Smith coal mine as a rope ridder on the main slope.

Survivors include the widow, Mrs. John McNeish, a daughter, Mrs. Mary Rogers of Cheyenne, Wyo., two brothers, William and James McNeish of Zanesville, O. and two sisters, Mrs. Nellie Woodson and Miss Elizabeth McNeish both of Zanesville.

There are also an Uncle, James McNeish of Washoe, and a grandson, John William Rogers of Cheyenne. 


Medical Notes: Husband
Hypertensive heart disease. Primary Hypertension
Source Citations:
1. United States. Census Office, "1920 U.S. Federal Census: Population Schedules" (14th Census. Washington, D.C.: Bureau of the Census Micro film Labratory, [193-?]. National Archives microfilm publications: T0625), Washoe, Carbon, Montana, ED:15, sheet 5a, line 20, FHL micr ofilm 1820967.

John McNeish, head, age 28, immigrated 1904, alien, born Scotland, parents born Scotland, rope rider in coal mine.

2. Scotland. General Register, "Statutory Register of Births [database on-line]" (http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/), GRO 608/00 Parish of New Cumnocl, County of Ayrshire, Scotland, John McNeish 1890 birth record, p. 5 no. 13.

John McNeish, illegitimate, born Twentieth of January 1890, 4 hrs. 10 mins. A.M. at Connel Park, mother Mary McNeish, occupation house keeper. Informant mother Mary McNeish. Registered 7th February 1890 at New Cumnock. Neil Moodie, Registrar.

3. Information from Elizabeth McNeish Johnson

Intial interview was 25 July in Casper, Wyoming. Additional information has been given at various times, but these dates have not been recorded. . .... Yellowstone Genealogy Forum, Cemetery Records of Carbon County (Montana) (Billings, Mont.: Double Image, 1989), p. 174. John McNeish born 25 Jan 1890, died 28 Jan 1942, buried Bearcreek Cemetery.

4. Olcot Funeral Home, Olcott Funeral Home Records (Red Lodge), John McNeish.

John McNeish, age 52 years, 3 days, died 28 January 1942 at Deaconess Hospital, Billings, Yellowstone County, Montana from cardiac collapse. Born 25 January 1890 in Scotland, father John McNeish, mother Jean Nesbit. Occupation miner, Social Security Number 516-03-0742. Wife Mary age 48 still living.

Belonged to the United Miner Worker Association (UMWA). Funeral 30 January 1942 at Olcott Funeral Home Chapel, 3:00 p.m. Clergy conducting was Nellie Williams. Buried 30 January 1942in Bearcreek Cemetery.

5. Ohio. Probate Court (Guernsey County), Marriage Records, 1810-1916. Ohio (Guernsey Co.) (Salt Lake City: Genealogical Society of Utah, 1972), Vol. 11, p. 197, FHL microfilm 894942.

Married 22 December 1911 at Cambridge County, Ohio by Reverend J. F McDonnell. Witnesses Mrs. J. F. McDonnell and C.W. Burt. John McDonald, father gave consent for Mary to marry John McNeish age 21 on 20 January 1912, residence Byesville, Ohio, birth Scotland, occupation miner, not previously married, father John McNeish, mother Jane Nesbit. Mary McDonald age 17 on 18 March 1911, residence Byesville, Ohio, occupation housekeeper, not previously married, father John McDonald, mother Mary Cameron.

6. "Information from Jack Edward McNeish."

7. Scotland. Registrar Generals Office, "Extract of an Entry in a Register of Births, 1861-1965" (Edinburgh, Scotland: New Register House), Armadale,

West Lothian, Scotland, p. 14, no.40. Mary McDonald born 14 March 1894, 9hr 0 min a.m. at 51 East Main Street, Armadale, West Lothian, father John McDonald, coal miner, mother Mary Cameron, parents married 15 Oct 1875 at Haywood, informant John McDonald. Registered 2 April 1894 at Armadale.

8. LeRoy S. Forbes, Big Horn County, Wyoming Cemetery Records (Salt Lake City, Ut.: Genealogical Society of Utah, 1992), Cowley Cemetery, Cowley, Wyoming. p. 129. [FHL fiche 6075849.

Mary Robb, born 14 Mar 1894, Armadale, Scotland, father John McDonald, mother Mary Cameron. 1st spouse . . . McNeish; 2nd spouse William Heber Robb.

Died 2 Nov 1961 Lovell, Big Horn, Wyoming, age 67, buried Cowley Cemetery, Cowley, Wyoming. ..L..o vell Chronicle, Lovell Chronicle, 4 November 1961,

"Funeral Services for Mary Robb."

Funeral services for Mary McDonald Robb were held Saturday, November 4 at 10:00 a.m. in the Cowley LDS chapel with 2nd counselor Bob Stevens conducting.

The choir sang "Rest for the Weary," and the invocation was given by Golden Snell. Mrs. Thomas Adams, Jr., sang "Going Home," and the obituary was read by Maude Holyoak. A vocal duet was sung by the Welch brothers, "Beyond the Sunset." Robert L. Peterson was the speaker followed by the choir's closing number, "Abide with Me, 'tis Eventide." The benediction was given by Hyrum Blackburn.

Mary McDonald Robb was born Mar. 14, 1894 in Armadale Scotland. When she was 7 the family moved to the United States, becoming a citizen in 1954. She grew up in Byesville, O.

She was married to John McNeish and they moved to Washoe, Mont., in 1914. After the death of Mr. McNeish she moved to Cheyenne, later returning to Montana where she married William Heber Robb June 24, 1946. They lived from then on in Cowley.

Mrs. Robb became a member of the LDS church in 1957 and was active in the Relief Society.

Survivors include a daughter, Mary McNeish Rogers, Cheyenne, and six step-sons, Clifton, Kenneth and Clair of Cowley, Elton of Pleasant Grove, Utah, Heber of Mapelton, Utah, and Walter of Lovell; 12 grandchildren, 12 step-grandchildren and 12 great-grandchildren; and a sister Jean Watson, Greybull. .... Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. Membership Department, Deceased Membership Records, 1941-1988 (Salt Lake City: Manuscript, filmed by the Church Historian's Office, 1944-2002), Mary McDonald Robb, FHL microfilm 884300.

Mary McDonald Robb, born 14 March 1894 at Arundell [Armadale], Scotland, father John McDonald, mother Mary Cameron. Husband Heber William Robb.

Died 2 November 1961 at Lovell, Wyoming, from a heart attack. Baptized a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 29 August 1957 by Walter Simmons Robb, confirmed 29 August 1957 by Carlyle E. Eyre.

9. Scotland. Census Office, "1871 Census Returns of Scotland" (Edinburgh: New Register House, 1952, 1985), Carnwath (Parish 632), Lanarkshire, p. 2, no. 6, FHL microf ilm 104014. John McDonald, boarder, age 18, miner, born Ireland. Living with step-father Daniel Haughan and mother Jane. .... Scotland.

Census Office, "1881 Census Returns of Scotland" (Edinburgh: New Register House), Carnwath (Parish 632), Lanarkshir6e, Scotland, p. 31, no. 1 14, FHL microfilm 203623. John McDonald, head, married, age 27, gas coal miner, born Ireland. .... United States. Census Office, "1910 U.S. Federal Census:

Population Schedules" (13th Census. Washington, D.C.: Bureau of the Census Micro film Labratory, [19--?]. National Archives microfilm publications:


T0624), Jackson Twp, Guernsey, Ohio, ED:15, sheet 3b, line 81, FH L microfilm 1375198. John McDonald, head, age 58, married, 34 years, born Ireland, parents born Ireland, immigrated 1903, alien, coal miner. .... United States. Census Office, "1920 U.S. Federal Census: Population Schedules" (14th Census.

Washington, D.C.: Bureau of the Census Micro film Labratory, [193-?]. National Archives microfilm publications: T0625), Washoe, Carbon, Montana, ED:15, sheet 5b, line 58, FHL micr ofilm 1820967. John McDonald, head, age 68, immigrated 1903, born Scotland, parents born Scotland, pump man for coal mine. .... Ellis Island Passenger Lists, Date of Arrival New York: Jun 24, 1893; Ship City of Rome ; Port of Departure: Greenock.


0299 McDonald, John M 40y Scotland Armadale
0300 McDonald, Mrs. F 37y Scotland Armadale
0301 McDonald, John M 16y Scotland Armadale
0302 McDonald, Dan M 12y Scotland Armadale
0303 McDonald, Alick M 10y Scotland Armadale
0304 McDonald, Abraham M 8y Scotland Armadale
0305 McDonald, Cath. F 6y Scotland Armadale
0306 McDonald, Jane F 4y Scotland Armadale
0307 McDonald, Euph. F 2y Scotland Armadale.
.... United States. Immigration and Naturalization Service, "Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New
York, 1897-1924." (Washington, D.C.: National Archives Record Service.), S.S. Columbia, arrived 17 Aug 1903, group b, list 25, FHL m icrofilm 1399068.

John McDonald, age 48, miner, last residence Armadale, final destination St. Marys, in United States 7 years ago, joining son Alex McDonald in Diggers Mines, St. Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania.

10. Scotland. Census Office, "1881 Census Returns of Scotland" (Edinburgh: New Register House), Carnwath (Parish 632), Lanarkshire, p. 31, no. 114, FHL microfilm 203623. Mary McDonald, wife, age 24, born Shotts, Lanarkshire. .... Scotland. Census Office, "1891 Census Returns of Scotland" (Edinburgh:

New Register House), Armadale, West Lothian, ED:1, p. 24, no.111, FHL microfil m 220363. Mary McDonald, wife, age 36, coal miner wife, born Chapelhall, Lanarkshire. .... United States. Immigration and Naturalization Service, "Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, 1897-1924."

(Washington, D.C.: National Archives Record Service.), S.S. Columbia, arrived 17 Aug 1903, group b, list 26. {FH L film 1399068. Mary McDonald, age 47, miners wife, last residence Armadale, final destination St. Marys, joining son Alex McDonald in Diggers Mines, St. Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania. .... United States. Census Office, "1910 U.S. Federal Census: Population Schedules" (13th Census. Washington, D.C.: Bureau of the Census Micro film Labratory,

[19--?]. National Archives microfilm publications: T0624), Jackson Twp, Guernsey, Ohio, ED:15, sheet 3b, line 81, FH L microfilm 1375198. Mary McDonald, wife, age 55, had 12 children, 9 still living, born Scotland, parents born Scotland. .... United States. Census Office, "1920 U.S. Federal Census:

Population Schedules" (14th Census. Washington, D.C.: Bureau of the Census Micro film Labratory, [193-?]. National Archives microfilm publications:

T0625), Washoe, Carbon, Montana, ED:15, sheet 5b, line 59, FHL micr ofilm 1820967. Mary McDonald, wife, age 65, immigrated 1903, born Scotland, parents born Scotland.

11. Yellowstone County (Montana). Clerk of the District Court, Marriage Records, 1881-1951. Montana (Yellowstone Co.) (Salt Lake City: Genealogical Society of Utah, 1994), book 37, p. 55, FHL microfilm 1943770.

[Groom] Heber Robb, residence Cowley, Wyoming, age 69, born Parowan, Utah on 1 June 1877, widower, father Adam Robb, mother Sarah Holyoak. [Bride]

Mary McNeish, residence Cheyenne, Wyoming, age 53, born Armadale, Scotland on 14 Mar 1893, widow, father John McDonald, mother Mary Cameron.

12. "1901 Census Returns of Scotland [database online]," Woodend Rows, Parish: Torphichen, West Lothian, Scotland; ED: 3; Page: 8 Lines: 20-25; Page 9 Lines: 1-4 Roll CSSCT1901_358; Year: 1901 John McDonald household.

~John McDonald, head of household, age 48, occupation coal miner, born Ireland

~Mary McDonald, wife of John McDonald, age 46, born Chapelhall, Lanarkshire

~Daniel McDonald, so of John McDonald, age 21, occupation coal miner, born Haywood, Lanarkshire

~Alex McDdonald, son of John McDonald, age 19, occupation coal miner, born Haywood, Lanarkshire

~Abraham McDonald, son of John McDonald, age 17, scholar, born Haywood, Lanarkshire

~Catherine McDonald, daughter of John McDonald, age 15, born Haywood, Lanarkshire

~Jane McDonald, daughter of John McDonald, age 12, scholar, born Haywood, Lanarkshire

~Euphemia McDonald, daughter of John McDonald, age 10, scholar, born Haywood, Lanarkshire

~Mary McDonald, daughter of John McDonald, age 8, born Armadale, Linlithgowshire

~Gilbert McDonald, son of John McDonald, age 3, born Armadale, Linlithgowshire.

13. United States. Census Office, "1910 U.S. Federal Census: Population Schedules" (13th Census. Washington, D.C.: Bureau of the Census Micro film Labratory, [19--?]. National Archives microfilm publications: T0624), Jackson Twp, Guernsey, Ohio, ED:15, sheet 3b, line 83, FH L microfilm 1375198.

Mary McDonald, daughter, age 16, single, born Scotland, father born Ireland, mother born Scotland.

14. United States. Census Office, "1920 U.S. Federal Census: Population Schedules" (14th Census. Washington, D.C.: Bureau of the Census Micro film Labratory, [193-?]. National Archives microfilm publications: T0625), Washoe, Carbon, Montana, ED:15, sheet 5a, line 21, FHL micr ofilm 1820967.

Mary McNeish, wife, age 26, immigrated 1905, alien, born Scotland, parents born Scotland.

15. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day day Saints, "Church Census Records, 1914-1960" (Salt Lake City: Genealogical Society of Utah, 1962), Census of 1955, FHL microfilm 471596.

Mary McDonald Robb, female, married, non-member, born 14 Mar 1893 Armadale, Scotland.

16. Yellowstone County (Montana). Clerk of the District Court, Marriage Records, 1881-1951. Montana (Yellowstone Co.) (Salt Lake City:

Genealogical Society of Utah, 1994), book 22, p. 359 [FHL film 1943763.
Married 26 October 1932 at Billings, Yellowstone, Montana by W.E. Downs, Justice of the Peace. Witnesses James McNeish and Euphemia McNeish.


[Groom] John McNeish, residence Washoe, Montana, age 43, born Newcumnock, Scotland, previously married, father John McNeish, mother Jeanie Nesbit.

[Bride] Mary McDonald, residence Washoe, Montana, age 38, born Armadale, Scotland, father John McDonald, mother Mary Cameron.

17. United States. Census Office, "1920 U.S. Federal Census: Population Schedules" (14th Census. Washington, D.C.: Bureau of the Census Micro film Labratory, [193-?]. National Archives microfilm publications: T0625), Washoe, Carbon, Montana, ED:15, sheet 5a, line 22, FHL micr ofilm 1820967. Mary McNeish, daughter, age 7 years, 5 months, born Ohio, parents born Scotland.

18. Montana. Carbon County. Superintendent of Schools, "School Census Report," Washoe, District no. 54, 1919 census. Mary McNish, age 9, born 18 August 1912, parents John and Mary McNish, residence Washoe.

19. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. FamilySearch, "Social Security Death Index (on-line)," 1996 edition, version 1.30. Mary Rogers, born 19 Aug 1912, Social Security Number 520-26-1256 issued in Wyoming, died Oct 1981 at San Jose, Santa Clara, California. .... California. Santa Clara County,

"Death Records," no. 4300-06704-516. Mary M. Rogers, age 69, died 15 October 1981, at Driftwood Convalescent Hospital, from arteria heart disease. Born 19 August 1912 in Ohio, father John McNeish, born Scotland, mother Mary born Scotland. Social Security Number 520-03-5623, widow, housewife.

Informant Mrs. Wanda Milligan, daughter, 3455 Marten Avenue, San Jose, CA 95148. Funeral Director Habing Family Funeral Home [telephone: 408-294- 9663]. Buried 21 October 1981 at Greybull Cemetery, Wyoming. .... Newspaper Agency (Greybull, Wyoming), "Greybull Standard" (Serial), Thursday, 22 October 1981, "Mary Rogers."

Graveside services for Mary Rogers, former Greybull resident, were held Wednesday, Oct. 21, at Hillside Cemetery. Rev. Theodore Cox Officiated.

Arrangements were under the direction of the Atwood Family Funeral Home, Basin. She died Oct. 15 in Gilroy, California. She was 69. Born Oct. 19, 1912 in Byesville, Ohio, she was the daughter of John and Mary McNeish. When she was two-years old, she moved with her family to Washoe, Mont. She married Thomas A. Rogers in Greybull in 1933. He preceded her in death in 1979. She moved to California in 1980. Among her survivors are sons John W. Rogers, Australia; Clarence M. Rogers [step-son], Cheyenne; daughter, Wanda Milligan [step-daughter], San Jose, Calif; 20 grandchildren and 20 great-grandchildren.

20. Wyoming. Greybull (Big Horn). Hillside Cemetery, "Headstone

Hillside Cemetery is outside Greybull City limits and there is no actual address. Hatwoods Mortuary (tel. 307-568-2041) has a map of all the plots and who is buried where. The sexton is Terry Kunkle (tel. 301-765-2267). 30 August 2002." .... Atwood Family Funeral Directors (Basin, Wyoming), "Funeral Home Records" (Manuscript), Mary Rogers.

Mary Rogers, age 69, died 15 October 1981 at Gilroy, California. Born 19 August 1912 in Byesville, Ohio, father John McNeish, mother Mary. Married  Thomas Arthur Rogers in 1933, widow. Moved from Ohio to Washoe, Montana at age 2, thenmoved to Greybull in 1933, and California in 1980. Survivors:

John William Rogers, Australia; Clarence M. Rogers, Cheyenne, Wyoming; Wanda L. Milliagan, San Jose, California; 20 grandchildren, 20 greatgrandchildren.

Informant Wanda Milligan, 3455 Marten Ave, San Jose, California, 95148. Habing Mortuary in Gilroy, California (408-847-4040) shipped body to Atwood Funeral Home. Graveside services held Wednesday 21 October 1921, 2:00 p.m. at Hillside Cemetery. Buried in Hillside Cemetery next to
Thomas Arthur Rogers, lot 76, block 15.

21. Wyoming. Big Horn County Clerk, Marriage Records, (Big Horn County, Wyoming), Married 6 July 1933 in Greybull, Wyoming, by S.K. Markley, Presbyterian Minister. Witnesses Fannie Bennett and C.F. Carnell. Filed 7 July 1933.

Thomas A. Rogers, over age 21, residence Greybull, Big Horn County, Wyoming and Mary McNeish, over age 21, residence Red Lodge, Ravalli [Carbon] County, Montana.

22. Montana. Carbon County. Clerk & Recorder, "Birth Certificate," no. 3142. Infant McNeish female, stillborn 4 January 1925 in Washoe, Carbon County, Montana, father John McNeish, residence Washoe, Montana, age 34 on last birthday, born New Numnock, Scotland, occupation haulage man for coal mine,
mother Mary McDonald, age 31 last birthday, born Armadale, Scotland.  At this birth, one child born alive and living, two stillborn children for mother Mary McDonald.

23. Montana. Carbon County Clerk and Recorder, "Death Records" (Manuscript), no. 1519. Infant McNeish, female, died 4 Jan 1925, 8:15 p.m. at Washoe, Carbon, Montana, father John McNeish born New Cumnock, Scotland, mother Mary McDonald, born Armadale, Scotland. Listed as a seven month pregnancy.

Informant John McNeish of Washoe. Funeral Director B. Downard of Red Lodge. Buried 6 Jan 1925 at Bearcreek Cemetery.

24. Yellowstone Genealogy Forum, Cemetery Records of Carbon County (Montana) (Billings, Mont.: Double Image, 1989), p. 174. Infant McNeish, born 4 January 1925, died 4 January 1925, buried Bearcreek Cemetery. Female child.


Bearcreek Cemetery Carbon County Montana


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